HEY. does anyone know where to get numbers for hotspots like long sand shoal, the mud hole, acid barge... etc??? btw im not sure if it is true...but i heard talk that the transmitting of td's for loran c has stopped?!? anyone else hear so???

Posted Thu Feb 25, 2010 7:10 pm

You can get some basic numbers off google earth, I think they sell a card that has 'hot spots' but not really sure.

Posted Thu Feb 25, 2010 8:09 pm

LORAN-C Termination Information
The Coast Guard published a Federal Register notice on Jan. 7, 2010, regarding its intention to terminate transmission of the LORAN-C signal Feb. 8, 2010. A LORAN Programmatic Environmental Impact Statement Record of Decision stating that the environmentally preferred alternative is to decommission the LORAN-C Program and terminate the North American LORAN-C signal was published in the Federal Register on Jan. 7, 2010.

The Homeland Security Appropriations Act for Fiscal Year 2010 allowed for termination of the LORAN-C signal on January 4, 2010, after certification from the Commandant of the Coast Guard that it was not needed for maritime navigation and from the Secretary of DHS that it is not needed as a backup for GPS. Full details are contained in Section 559 of this act which can be found at the Government Printing Office website (clicking on the link will open a new window).

In accordance with the DHS Appropriations Act, the U.S. Coast Guard will terminate the transmission of all U.S. LORAN-C signals effective 2000Z 08 Feb 2010. At that time, the U.S. LORAN-C signal will be unusable and permanently discontinued. This termination does not affect U.S. participation in the Russian American or Canadian LORAN-C chains. U.S. participation in these chains will continue in accordance with international agreements. The Canadian Coast Guard has also issued a statement, which is shown on their website.

You may view the estimated remaining LORAN-C signal coverage areas of these international chains in Appendix B, pages B-6 through B-9 of the Specification of the LORAN-C Transmitted Signal, COMDTINST M16562.4A. The entire Specification may be downloaded also.

The Coast Guard strongly urges mariners currently using LORAN-C for navigation to shift to a GPS navigation system and become familiar with its operation as soon as possible. Mariners will not be able to rely upon LORAN-C for navigation as of Feb. 8, 2010.

LORAN-C has, as a result of technological advancements in the last 20 years, became an antiquated system no longer required by the armed forces, the transportation sector or the nation’s security interests and is used only by a small percentage of the population. The Coast Guard understands that LORAN-C is still used by a small segment of the public and that those users will have to shift to GPS or other systems; however, continued use of limited resources to operate LORAN-C is no longer prudent use of taxpayer funds and is not allowed under the 2010 DHS Appropriation Act.

The Coast Guard has enjoyed a long and close relationship with the many communities located near LORAN-C facilities and we value those relationships. The Coast Guard will continue to honor those relationships by working to minimize any adverse impacts to communities caused by site closures.

The decision to cease transmission of the LORAN-C signal reflects the president’s pledge to eliminate unnecessary federal programs.

Pertinent Documents Regarding Termination of LORAN-C

Posted Fri Feb 26, 2010 8:04 am

Thanks aqualung!!! google earth has come a long way!!! i downloaded google 5 and was actualy able to look up my driveway and almost through the window!!!! they show pics ppl took and posted of iconic locations. some nice ones of wh light. even an underwater pic of a sunken u-boat off the east side of block. gonna have to do some more investigating but its a good start!!!! And thanx bigout for the facts on the loran topic. they were supposed to eliminate tds years ago. guess our gov finaly got some "free time"!

Posted Fri Feb 26, 2010 9:39 am

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